If so, sounds great. I did change-out the undersize Rivarossi wheelsets, and replaced them with Kadee 36" wheelsets.Some of these cars have truck-mounted couplers, some body-mounted, but I do have fairly generous curves, so very few problems with derailments. Walthers 910-31101 HO scale 60' Thrall Material Handling Car MHC-2 Amtrak #1541. Thought I'd help the grandnephew with his new layout. Something went wrong. $60.00 + $18.00 shipping. I started in the model train business in 1959 buying die-cast freight car kits from Clarence Menteer at Model Die Casting, painting and . . The Detail is decent even by today's standards. Too bad they're not running undecs (yet?) The two windows flanking the baggage door were taken from Athearn coaches Rivarossi also offered a combine, but it had only three windows on each side, near the car's end (the prototype was used as a "rider car", at the rear of a baggage/express train). I did remove some of the excess weight, but will be replacing the trucks with ones from Walthers, and will likely re-up the weights. Sold. They LOOK like nice cars, but where can they, reasonably correctly, be used? The first would be the set A and set B, that are full length cars of the AHM era type. I don't use diaphragms, and they didn't come with any. Again DON'T judge them from the road. I likely won't get over that way for a long time, but. In later years (more the lightweight era) MANY railroads had a color they often referred to as "pullman green', and these were often some kind of dark olive green. Country: Germany. I have 3 coaches and a baggage car. Rivarossi introduced its line of quality 60' cars (baggage, RPO, combine, coach) a few years ago.just prior to going into some serious financial straights. . Find many great new & used options and get the best deals for I Rivarossi Level Passage at the best online prices at eBay! I just finished the purchace. So if your layout has sharp curves, the MDC cars would be a better choice. The newer sets of the 60' cars are of higher quality. A few photos(photos will enlarge if clicked upon). Anxiously waiting. These sets are of very good quality and I was very happy to obtain them. Up until the mid-1950's, the C&NW Chicago commuter trains were being hauled by light pacifics in the E and E-1 classes, when they replaced by GP's and F's. I got a set of the 60 footers around 20 years ago, maybe longer. I'm trying to avoid modifying how the truck attaches to the frame. Shop from top railroading brands like Centralia Car Shops, Bachmann, Walthers, and Lionel. Come in black for heavyweight cars SKU 6060H Weight 0.13 lb Price $6.98 Qty Not available in the current price set. Mike. of the Black River Transfer & Terminal R.R. I have come to the conclusion that they are right. A major reference work for all Rivarossi Collectors, the text. Everyday trains got Pullman Green./Partly/ because that green was the official color for Pullman which ownedand operated most sleeping cars until after WWII. I didn't think he should PolyTech Forum website is not affiliated with any of the manufacturers or service providers discussed here. As doctorwayne has shown, they can be a good starting point and can be made as detailed as you like. cars. I've just recently started work on converting some Rivarossi Pullmans, coaches, and diners, along with some MDC and Walthers coach roofs, into 17 or 18 wooden head-end cars (baggage/express/postal cars, along with a battery charging car. About that time, four 60' heavyweight cars (RPO, Baggage, Combine, Coach) all based on CNW prototypes came out. These are Harriman style rounded roofs, correct? If anyone has some good ideas on how to upgrade these passenger cars I'd appreciate it. Walther's made a LED light bar that fit in nicely. What's WORSE, paint formula records indicate that real 'pullman green'wasn't GREEN at all. It takes an iron man to play with a toy iron horse. PRR had so much stuffthere may be some hope there. For those, I used sheet styrene to create interior walls and partitions, and added RIX/PikeStuff seats'. Rivarossi HO Scale Model Railroad Passenger Cars, Rivarossi HO Scale Model Railroad Steam Locomotives, As you can see, Out of stock or discontinued when sold out (as all the 60'ers are).. You might also look at Con-Cor, IHC under which, a lot of the same cars were marketed. (BTW I believe the Athearn ones are 63' and 67' respectively.) The "windows" are a plastic box that fits inside the car body so the windows are not flush with the outside of the car body. Mid-grade? So called, "Pullman Green" was the most common color on passenger cars from the turn of the century until after WWII. 2. I've got 3 Rivarossi coaches and a baggage car. No 61 Flesh - Matt 2.69. They were very good quality for the 60's and 70's. In addition to Rivarossi, there's a company embarking on Boston & Maine 60/66 foot Coaches, and Combines in Resin. -fmPerpetrator of the Haggis Decal Project, athttp://www.wyomingyard.com/haggiscar. I'll have to dig up some four-wheel trucks for these. All was fine. I believe all of the 'old' Rivarossi (AHM) cars first offered in the 1960s were full 80' length, except for cars (like say the head end cars and heavyweight coaches) where the prototype car was shorter; they weren't 'shorties' like say Athearn passenger cars. I looked at these cars with interest. Le migliori offerte per Vintage HO Train Car - Rivarossi Burlington Northern Dome Passenger Car #357 sono su eBay Confronta prezzi e caratteristiche di prodotti nuovi e usati Molti articoli con consegna gratis! Rivarossi 2709 US Passenger Car New York Central Gauge H0 Unrecorded Boxed | Collectables, Model Railways & Trains, Railways & Trains | eBay! manage your account online and more! > Does anyone know for sure what the prototypes (if any) for these cars are?> > I did a cursory look through a bunch of my GN and PRR materials and> could not find a believable match for any of them. The cars are brand new old stock. really, they roll great. All have updated tooling and features knuckle couplers and factory installed grab irons . The only issue is that with wheels that are 5"bigger in diameter you do tend to raise the car height up a bit. I also have 83 passenger cars. Walthers bought out Rivarossi's remaining stock of these cars and sold them under their TrainLine banner for a year or two. at the best online prices at eBay! I don't know it they still come without interiors. On some trucks you had to shave a little off the brake shoes. To my knowledge, these cars arearound 54' between the vestibules, or about 64' between the coupler faces. Baggage 60 foot Harriman arch roof: 6029 - Pullman-built 1909 for O&C 6025-6034 series. . 60' cars. $5 - $ . There's one for the heavyweight cars with 6-wheel trucks and another for the lightweight car's with four-wheel trucks. They used to be sold without any interior detailing. The roofs may, or may not, have been either black, 'pullman green', or 'dark green truck enamel'. Free delivery for many products. O SCALE AHM RIVAROSSI 4 CAR BOXED PASSENGER CAR SET-C-9-used-Original Boxes! These HO scale cars can run on a radius as small as 18 inches allowing them to run on compact layouts. Buyer's Premium 15% Lot 0232 Details. The Rivarossi cars are fairly light, so I add custom-cast lead weights, usually hidden in the washrooms, but I also place them in the car's clerestory roof when necessary.I usually add a few details, such as grabirons and, on baggage cars, sill steps. Bought my set from Walthers 18 months ago, "limited quantity" etc, but no problems, they arrived in short order and good shape. But we (my dad and I) went crazy and also bought a 2-8-8-2 and a bunch of other things. These cars have body mounted couplers and will in my experience have trouble with curves below 24" radius. Free shipping for many products! This product has been discontinued by the manufacturer and is limited to the quantity on hand. . The Rivarossi 60's are Clerestory roofed Heavy weights, not the round roofed, at least all mine are. I was thrilled to see that they were Santa Fe also. JavaScript is disabled. Hey Don, thank you VERY much! Rivarossi used accurate numbers on the C&NW cars). HO Scale Coupler Conversions AHM (Rivarossi) The perfect solution for all of your coupler woes. Add a couple of traction tires to each of the 8-wheel engines and you have a locomotive that can pull a ton of cars. AU $51.94 . Most of them are made to negotiate smaller radii. Thecoaches ranfine, I then ran them on my mainline which is 22" radius and of course they ran perfectly. Just an educated guess. A lot of work but I wanted to keep the car for whatever reason. I also added metal wheels. HO Scale AHM/Rivarossi, IHC Passenger cars in box. So called, "Pullman Green" was the most common color on passenger cars fromthe turn of the century until after WWII. ), it's going to be a loteasier to make up some decent-looking typical heavyweight consists thatdon't look as much like a boxed set. Yes, but even 'pullman green' varied with era, railroad, and weathering. For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding. A little longer is baggage dorm series 1602 - 1605 which were 70 feet 0in over end sills. Thank you for any help you may offer. Painted Daylight 1941 for the San Joaquin. Every pic I've seen of the Rivarossis on ebay, etc. Not a question but, chances are good that your loco. Everyday trains got Pullman Green.> /Partly/ because that green was the official color for Pullman which owned> and operated most sleeping cars until after WWII. But with their similar appearance, they do look good together on a model RR, and particularly one with tighter curves. Unless you can nail it down to ONE car on ONE day you'll go NUTS tying to create 'generic' colors like 'pullman green' that work for all railroads in all eras and circumstances. Picture . ), it's going to be a lot easier to make up some decent-looking typical heavyweight consists that don't look as much like a boxed set. I have a few of those in the IC paint. At one time, I had four sets of four Rivarossi 60' passenger cars. Oddly enough, those 4 cars were based on cars that really were only 60' long, so technically weren't "shorties" eitheralthough they were pretty short. Login, or register today to interact in our online community, comment on articles, receive our newsletter, The coupler box "swing arm" is well supported too, which will avoid coupler droop. I actually like the Roundhouse cars but as you reference, they are late 1800s, early 1900s. Reply Find many great new & used options and get the best deals for Rivarossi Walthers 60' Heavyweight Southern Pacific 4 Car Passenger Set at the best online prices at eBay! I believe Chicago Northwestern prototype. I have some Rivarossi passenger cars, and run them with Athearn, Model Die Casting, and BranchLine passenger cars, along with some head-end express cars from various manufacturers. Mostly the heavweights were models of Santa Fe prototypes. They are very much underweight. The cars I bought have already had body mounted couplers added so I don't need to do that. So some bolster modifications are in order (obviously easier to add a shim or washer than to shave away. The coaches were an exception and I don't know their prototype. how do they roll? All photos I recall of similar ATSFcars were "Pullman" green, as were CB&Q cars through WWII. I some times take the Fife Shuttle and deliver Dan's trailer to him there in Fife. ok, i am back. So you could run say a 60' Baggage with a 70' Rivarossi (if you can find one) or 72' Athearn coach or two in a train. I "test ran" them extensively on Kato HO scale unitrack down to 22" radius curves with no problems. on each end seems to work fine. It was a mixture of lamp black (carbon) and YELLOW. 2022 Vintage HO Athearn Santa Fe SW-1 Switcher Loco . Print. Thanks to everyone who has chimed in. Saw some late in the day at the Timonium train show. IHM and AHM are sorta-kinda related, but not exactly. I made a mistake. This is a unit I metalized and weathered. rivarossi rivarossi HO Rivarossi IHC EIGHT Union Pacific 2 Color Gray Passenger Cars Boxed (121RX) August 16, 2022 This listing is for a HO gauge Rivarossi set of 8 smooth side passenger cars in two tone gray. My. Should I look for metal ones made by IHC or are there other suitable, less expensive options. I've searched for replacement trucks but don't know what to look for. You are using an out of date browser. You will find locals passing through Wisconsin with those headend cars and the coaches. Rivarossi HO 85' Smoothe Side Diner Louisville & Nashville "Cross Keys Tavern", Rivarossi HO 85' Smooth Side Coach Louisville & Nashville #2585 - Nice, Passenger Car Interior KIT for AHM/Rivarossi 72ft Heavy-Weight Coach [ HO ]. That shop sounds like my kind of place. Rivarossi The company was founded in 1945 in Como, Italy by Alessandro Rossi. The new Rivarossi cars appear to be based on the same C&NW prototypes as the old Walthers cars - full RPOs in the 9413-33 series, baggage cars in various 87xx series, combines in various batches in the 74xx series, and coaches in several groups numbered between 3088 and 3306 (the photos and car listing indicate Rivarossi used accurate numbers on the C&NW cars). Finally, be advised that in the near futureCon Cor will apparently be producing limited runs of qualityPRR MP54 cars in several road names and in undec. I upgraded all to McHenry truck mounted couplers, 36" or 38" Intermountain wheelsets (after removing car brake shoes), and, when necessary, extra weight using glued birdshot in nooks and crannies of model floors. For the Athearn Blue Box Passenger cars (or MANY, MANY , MANY Blue Box/MDC items) try calling PF&S Railway Supply, in Pasco, WA (509) 266-4384 If You ever go to The Tri-Cities, this place should be a MUST SEE, they have an INCREDIBLE amount of stock in there, just DON"T judge them from the outside, it doesn't look like much from the parking lot, but get inside and WOW. Sounds good; however that does mean most of the replies you got don't apply since they're referencing the 'old' Rivarossi cars from the 1960's-1990's. Rivarossi HO UP Streamliner passenger cars. I am happy with all of them. I will look to add a single car of each style tothe Fast Freight Express that we are assembling. The stock was limited and sold out rather quickly. 4) Do you plan to run those four cars together in one train or split them up between two or three trainsand then addother brands of passenger cars with truck or body mount couplers to make up a train or two or three of eight cars eachmore or less? I painted the red stripe thru the windows using a rattle can. Just my thoughts, ideas, opinions and experiences. They track well, run in trains mixed with Walthers cars, and roll like skates! I did a cursory look through a bunch of my GN and PRR materials andcould not find a believable match for any of them. These are based on ATSF cars, but are fairly generic and could be used for many other railroads. They appear to be updates of the 40, The short combine and coaches were used on locals - look at some of the C&NW, > 2) Was the ATSF version [prototype] and the Burlington version, On Thu, 15 Jan 2004 00:21:44 UTC, "Christian" <. rare N Scale Rivarossi the Alton Limited 6-car passenger set 9584 - 9589 train. "I like my Pullman Standards & Budds in Stainless Steel flavors, thank you!". Are other than coach cars forthcoming? I just wanted to confirm that Hornby now owns Rivarossi and you won't find Athearn in the Walthers catalog or website anymore as Horizon & Walthers are competetive distributors now and don't sell each others' products. The RPOs and baggage cars (with 6 wheel trucks) were in general passenger service, while the 4 wheel truck combines and coaches were used. Well, that's another story. Most of them are rivarossi. The wheel flanges are not pizza cutter type. They were 60ft 10 1/4 inches over the end sills and 60ft 1inch interior length. All photos I recall of similar ATSF cars were "Pullman" green, as were CB&Q cars through WWII. though, not exact replicas, they do make a decent looking train. I bought Walthers lighting kits, which included new trucks with metal wireframes. Pre-owned. Picture Information. I also seem to recall that the observation car may have been a business car. I would guess that due to the weight of the cars with all the hardwood construction, no more than 5 or 6 were ever in a single train. On the GN the baggages and RPOs all seemto have had differing door locations, and the coaches all havevestibules on BOTH ends. Apr 15, 2023 10:00 AM EDT. First(and only)place on the right. Thank you. By todays standards they are average. However, if you prefer to keep the factor Rivarossi trucks, metal wheel replacements seem to work fine on them. The Rivarossi combine and coach are supposed to be models of C&NW Chicago area commuter cars, which, of course were generally shorter than intercity cars. Find many great new & used options and get the best deals for Walthers 933-1052: HO RIVAROSSI Passenger Car INTERIOR LIGHTING Kit NIOB at the best online prices at eBay! Excellent. all with clerestory roofs. 2) ''Modern'' or''OldTime''passenger cars? Rivarossi have been making HO scale cars since the early 1950s. This example shows the very old wheel design used by Rivarossi. The RPO and Baggage were also approximate 60' size. Do they use European-style Have some questions about these new "ACF coaches." PRR had so much stuff> there may be some hope there. Big dog's bark is definitely worse than his bite ( never bit anyone that I know of, but he is intimidating, if you don't know him) Plan on lots of time in there, after you wander around awhile, LeRoy will talk your ears off. 1) Specifically, what engine would be used to pull the ATSF or the Burlington version?2) Was the ATSF version [prototype] and the Burlington version [prototype] really the same green color, or did Rivarossi simply choose a color and apply it to both roadnames?3) What era [time frame] is suitable for these 60' passenger cars? I painted a lot of undecorated figures, although not Mel-quality. I'll have to dig up some four-wheel trucks for these. I did a cursory look through a bunch of my GN and PRR materials and could not find a believable match for any of them. Railway: DB. You must log in or register to reply here. Thanks Don! Good answers above from fellow forum members. 8) Any grades if anyare in your track work? On the GN the baggages and RPOs all seem> to have had differing door locations, and the coaches all have> vestibules on BOTH ends.> > They LOOK like nice cars, but where can they, reasonably correctly, be used?> > There is, of course, the possibility of running non-home-road equipment> in many trains, especially sleepers and head-end equipment.> > Dan Mitchell> ==========, These are CNW prototypes, but similar cars were widely used, especially thebaggage and rpo.-- Brian Ehni, You do not have permission to delete messages in this group, Either email addresses are anonymous for this group or you need the view member email addresses permission to view the original message, A few quick questions regarding the NEW Rivarossi 60' passenger cars [as, I looked at these cars with interest. Con Cor advises those interested to enter reserve orders. Its a Red Box 4-8-8-2 cab forward. Thanks. Free delivery for many products! A railroad had to bemighty big to get Pullman to specially paint Pullman cars for a specifictrain. These classic smooth-side coach and dome-observation cars come ready-to-run with interior details, free-rolling plastic and metal trucks, and magnetic knuckle couplers. The so called "Empire Builder" green on the GNwas of this nature. if not, you can always use them to upgrade some freight cars. I was wondering if the sets offered by Trainworld at $30 were the same, but never got through to staff to find out, the line was always busy. The earlier runs of Rivarossi locos have the pizza cutter flanges that will not run on any track smaller than code 100 (the track that comes with trainsets). Bundles. But even in the late 50's and early 60's, I remember a couple Q steam fan trips where they were still able to assemble a complete green heavyweight train - my few photos from those trips where my "people filter" was really working look just like old Lucius Beebe steam portraits. I ordered metal wheels to fit the IHC trucks. They came with both horn hooks and knuckle couplers and I can't remember which were mounted when I got them. (To keep the clasp brakes, 33" wheels would work without interference). The so called "Empire Builder" green on the GN was of this nature. The RPOs and baggage cars were more ubiquitous and are probably like cars rostered by ATSF and CB&Q. I'll just add that a few years back I modified my Rivarossi Budds with metal wheels and filled the cavities in the underframe with BB pellets which were covered with glue. Regardless of railroad. Free shipping for many products! $60.38. I have been having trouble with Con-Cor horn-hook couplers. I wanted to see if there'd be anything else available other than the coaches, first. Rivarossi 1920's HWT Passenger Car LACKAWANNA Ho Scale KEVIL. thanks for your info guys. 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