Should your firearm pull to the right or left for whatever reason, you can finish the process and drill one of those holes all the way through to the blast chamber. I was going to force yall to watch the video to see the results (you know, I make like three cents every time the video ad is clicked), but I couldnt bring myself to do it. Material:Heat treated high quality steel Since you seem open to including more comps/brakes in future testing, here is another:http://dynamicresistancellc.com/products.html PWS CQB Compensator 556 MSRP: $139.00 . PS, here is a brake for you to look at. Also flash hiders for that separate test. Thats totally fine. Thats because Im shooting for fun and Im not an Operator. It was completely objective and (for the most part) scientifically valid except for that rock flapping around the sled. MSRP:$179.95. Still, when theyre visible you have to be pretty close to even notice and all functional parts of the machining (concentricity, threading, etc) seemed just right. Precision Armaments AFAB, or Advanced Flash Arresting Brake, is a combination compensator and flash hider. mandalorian-armor-for-sale by BadKarmaZeroSix Tue May 05, 2015 3:39 am, Post I picked the Tectical Comp over the battle comp for the cost and they look very similar. It is NOT a flash suppressor. Sorry Im going to hijack this comment thread since its up at the top. My guess is it would do favorably along with the other 3-port brakes in the test, but not as well as the winner the Precision Armament M4-72 because it doesnt have reverse-angled ports, which definitely give the M4-72 an edge in ultimate recoil reduction.. January 23, 2020 POSSIBLE REASONS BEHIND STUDENT VISA REJECTION. Length:2.025 SiCo has better performance on cans, and has WAY better customer service in the event something goes wrong. The black oxide finish was done more consistently than the norm. Because if its worse I would just go with the epsilon. Also available for 7.62. Keep up the good hard work brotha! Dag, you didnt test the one Im currently most interested in, haha. First off, congrats on being close to #2, and get ready as you no longer outnumber them, hope everything goes well. Id be very interested in those stats as well. .hahaha I kid, I kid. Although blast and concussion is pretty brutal if youre off to the sides of the rifle, its really a non-issue from behind it. For the purposes of the recoil test I left it wide open, and it ended up right near the middle for recoil reduction. I would like to see the spikes tactical barking spider. Yeah, nit picky but I like physics and I will accept STFU responses. I really enjoyed this competitive evaluation. Thats pretty freaking tight. Finish:Beadoxide Black oxide finish is standard. Any chance you could test the ALG Defense Sidewinder? Which is just slightly longer. The is one of the other muzzle devices that accepts the FERFRANS CRD. Im sorry it was missing. Feels like a .50 BMG haha. The PWS CBQ device allows the overpressure to blow forward, significantly reducing that potential distraction. Remove the mass of the gasses (equal to charge weight 26 gr in my guess) and I get 24.3 lb-ft/s for momentum. It did reduce recoil by the largest amount of any dedicated compensator (no brake style ports) in the test. Length:2.9 Two gigantic, curved blast baffles catch as much of the gas and pressure as possible, pulling the brake forwards and preventing the rifle from recoiling rearwards. The M4-72 is also available in bead blast stainless finish) Finish:parkerized "Of course I'm carrying a gun. For some that is the primary goal. If youre a manufacturer and you make a muzzle device that youd like to see in a piece like this, shoot me an e-mail at [emailprotected]. Diameter(at largest point): 1.139 Ordained Arms intends to build out the SpitZLead line with a boar head, wolf head, etc. The CQB stock is made of machined 7075-T6 aluminum, and it mounted easily to my registered lower. And it'll mount to a 5.55 a2 muzzle device. barking spider phrase. Regardless of your choice there, the purpose of this brake is to keep the muzzle of your rifle as still as possible, and the results of my testing show that its really freaking successful here. With rare exception, if I couldnt see a difference between the two shots, I only included slow-mo for one of them, but if something was different (usually it was the amount of muzzle flash) then I included both. They work, theyre reasonable priced and they are local to AZ. Notify me of follow-up comments by email. FYI, I have zero expectation that any company will donate a product for a head-to-head test like this, so was happy at the excitement and cooperation among most of these manufacturers while also totally understanding of the companies that chose not to provide free product (or as a matter of course, choose to never provide free product for any purpose). Length: 1.437 If you want a mix of flash hiding and recoil reduction, then look at the Battlecomp series. Actually using a light meter in order to quantify empirical data necessary to create a graph would presumably be quite difficult. That said, I believe you got the AAC Blackout and AAC Brakeout mixed up. The TSD Combat Systems Extended Kompressor when on sale is under 70 and is superior to any of these. Would be even better if there was a repeatable easy way to objectively test side blast (my Fav the FSC556 indeed has very little compromise as you said but it definitely loosens up the crud in my sinuses, sucker is LOUD). Weight:2.51 oz If you are still unsure about studying overseas, it is always good to speak to an experienced person who can help you point in the right direction. From what I can see in the video it looked like that AFAB was the only combo brake that didnt show a visible flash. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. For most brakes and comps, felt recoil reduction is only one goal anyway, with the other primary benefit being the reduction of muzzle movement in any other direction. Id love to see the fortis RED(rapid engagement device). Weight:3.35 oz ), directing everything forwards doesnt equate to reducing flash. The parkerized-like (DPMS doesnt specify on its website) finish isnt so hot aesthetically. If you do the flash suppression please also measure noise for a person to the side of the shooter. Obviously Id have to come up with the sort of equipment for measuring those brief bursts and logging the peak brightness, but Id also have to go out to the woods on a moonless night in the middle of winter (it has been like 14 degrees at night). All of the EPSILON comments apply here as well, except that this GAMMA is my new brake. Thank you for giving so much of your time and efforts to make this review! You have been permanently banned from this board. I would be interested to see how the Lancer Nitrous Comp performs. Very informativeI chose a JP Supercomp XL Ti for my Ruger GSR, tamed that short barreled .308 right down. Run the bare brake when youre looking for the best recoil and muzzle rise compensation, and add the CRD when you want to direct the concussion and blast forwards instead of sideways at those around you. To get an easily serviceable and durable AR on a budget, staying pretty close to Mil Spec everything is the easy way to do it. Im considering having mine cut off my 14.5 barrel and have something else out on there. Question to TTAGers. by sucker76 Tue May 05, 2015 2:18 am, Post Since many of these devices specifically claim to reduce recoil I created a test rig to measure just that, and a winner has been declared . Length:2.225 info with us. If the top strap was narrower than the bottom, it would more effectively inhibit muzzle rise. buy-ak47 ak-74-for-sale Maybe you could take the Top 5 brakes and do 3, 3-5 shot groups with each. Material: 17-4ph heat treated stainless steel In fact, this 70% of recoil is from the gasses thing is on JPs product page about the Recoil Eliminators. Im looking forward to the flash hider test. Maybe Ill run a single test next time I go out to the woods and do the Battlecomp installed properly and then installed upside down, as it would definitely prove any difference here. Jeremy, It would be amazing if you setup an experiment that measured muzzle rize as well. Weight:2.26 oz Its most certainly very pleasant to stand next to compared to most of the other things in this test. Definition of barking spider in the Idioms Dictionary. Designed for close quarters combat, specifically law enforcement and military units shooting indoors and at close range, this compensator is gaining popularity for use on short barreled rifles to mitigate sound and blast, while improving overall weapon control. PWS CQB Gen2 .30 Cal Comp 5/8x24 - Black Usually Ships in 24 Hours MSRP: $139.95 . Machining is excellent and the Melonite finish looks good. Funny Barking Spider Farting Arachnid Novelty Unisex T Shirt 8 ratings $1799 Get Fast, Free Shipping with Amazon Prime & FREE Returns Learn more Fit Type: Men Men Women Youth Color: Navy Size: Select Solid colors: 100% Cotton; Heather Grey: 90% Cotton, 10% Polyester; All Other Heathers: 50% Cotton, 50% Polyester Imported Pull On closure Yeah, it may actually overcompensate like Vuurwapen mentioned you can see the barrel bending downwards in my slow-mo footage as well. Lars Hagemann (danish top shooter selling his own brake, look him up at FaceBook). It lived on my AR for a while before moving over to my Tavor, where it usually graces the muzzle when a suppressor isnt on it. Or wait until the Omega comes out, as it doesnt use the Trifecta mount, it uses the Spec mount. Add to Wish List Add to Compare. Author: www.300blktalk.com Evaluate 3 (6794 Ratings). MSRP:$59. Im going to be keeping a few of these muzzle devices so I can do that in the future. There should be no decimal point, the AISI designation is 4140 steel. Tarkov Market. Well, this is the same brake just without a QD suppressor mount. No doubt much of the recoil reduction is owed to the slightly reversed vents two on each side that are behind the first blast baffle. The Battlecomp is definitely a known quantity, so it had to be included here (even if Vuurwapen Blog hates its guts). Again, THANK YOU SO MUCH as this is very important to me. I actually thought there were some mistakes namely, a very fine, longitudinal line on the inside and some thicker lines on the vents but they actually are on the 3D drawings on Precision Armaments site. I assembled all the parts myself. Looks like there will be another pretty impressive collection of brakes here for the next test! push to the rear. MSRP: $64.99($74.99 in stainless). Ramaswamy: The AR in AR-15 Stands for Freedom, FN Adds to Their FN 15 Rifle Line With the New FN 15 Guardian Carbine, Gear Review: Ulfhednar UHRT55CBH Tripod with Ball Head, http://www.amazon.com/Skull-Tactical-SkullComp-Stainless-Competition/dp/B00MG3HT76/ref=pd_rhf_se_p_img_13, http://www.diamondhead-usa.com/collections/accessories/products/t-brake-muzzle-compensator-5-56mm, http://dynamicresistancellc.com/products.html. . In past reviews Ive put Nitrate instead of Nitride in the stats for something and have put in information like 41.40 even though I know its incorrect or typod or whatever. Keep in mind that were also talking about the fairly minor recoil of .223/5.56 here, and many prospective purchasers will put recoil reduction at the bottom of their list behind other considerations like reducing flash and concussion. Weight: 1.46 oz Some grittiness in the threads. Mark. Diameter(at largest point): 0.857 PWS .223/5.56 Muzzle Device Alignment Shim Set This item is currently on order MSRP: $4.95 . I am trying to decide between that and the FERFRANS QCB. Finish:Nitride coated It would actually be cool is you also tested flash of these devices as well. But flash is in they hands of the machinery. Otherwise, a variance such as this would be grounds for protest by the potentially-affected product manufacturers. I also like the smaller devices but have stayed away from designs like the battlecomp due to reports of overcompensation by pushing the muzzle down. With my gas piston AR-15 strapped in a rest and the gas block turned to off, which means the action remains locked shut and 100% of the gas going out the muzzle, I proceeded to sled test all of the muzzle devices plus control measurements of the bare muzzle and a standard A2 birdcage. Material: Steel bar stock I just mentioned the Spikes looks similar as a visual aid. Its just that dang nice looking. Sounds awesome. I am sure they are related given the physics, but Ill bet some make less noise but still reduce recoil more than others. Finish:parkerized I believe it came out since you ran this exhaustive test. PWS CQB Compensator NoKick.com (Para Bellum Products, Inc.) 495 subscribers Subscribe 18K views 8 years ago Primary Weapons System CQB Compensator Show more Show more PWS Factory Tour OreGear. Despite these reverse vents, the M4-72 hasless blast and concussion from behind the rifle than I expected. Last edited by myv6; 03-09-14 at 19:48 . Weight:2.11 oz I want to do this but am unsure what length barrel to get. Material: 17-4PH heat treated stainless steel Nearly all of the ones that beat it in the recoil test are larger and heavier. Lock the shutter open and fire(manual settings). It was designed to be like the Noveske flaming pig and had an internal cone to create back pressure that helped cycle subsonic ammo. Well, all of these are Tact-Cool, but for 5.56, I would be looking more at flash suppression. Length:2.25 Lantac Dragon was supposed to be in this test but there was some apparent confusion between Lantac and myself. Benny Hill Rolling Thunder Plenty of these things dont always align with reality in some way. Basically, you have some control over how much and where the gasses are jetting out, thereby controlling the way those gasses move the muzzle around. Barking Spiders are primitive spiders called Mygalomorphs (which means 'mouse like') and have gill-like lungs that require humidity. Also available for 7.62. Length:2.677 I couldnt delay the test and by the time I realized the Dragon still hadnt shown up I no longer had the time to purchase one, so I just had to run the test without the Lantac piece. Home birth. The M4-72 Severe-Duty Compensator has no porting to direct gasses upwards, yet, it had no muzzle rize, even when compared with the JP Recoil Eliminator which does have a mechanism to direct gasses upwards. Im now most interested in comparing it against Precision Armaments own EFAB (Enhanced Flash Arresting Brake), which wasnt yet available when I did this testing. springfield-hellcat-for-sale Neither. As far as I know you are the only reviewer on the web to review the MKII version of this thing with any kind of quantitative data. The PWS CQC comp is intended for use at eye-gouging distance. Rock of Science or not . Please feel free to visit our website https://www.legitarmsdealer.com/. Click any of these (or any other photo in the write-up) to see them full-size: Listed alphabetically. Newsletter Sign up for our newsletter now for product updates and specials It all comes apart for easy cleaning, and everything is nitrided inside and out. These too: Super-Comps expansion chamber & variable side facing ports remain the bench standard with breaks all the while keeping side concussion to a minimal. SilencerCo Specwar Trifecta Muzzle Brake: SilencerCos Specwar Trifecta is a 3-port brake that also doubles as a QD mount for its Specwar suppressors with ASR mounting system (in either 5.56 or 7.62 flavors). What is best? And this time I included the one that was missing from the recoil sled thing the first time around. Material: steel Machining is perfect. Im not saying that you should re-test all of the devices just the ones when the rock moved. In some cases these brakes were designed using expensive software programs for computational fluid dynamics virtual testing and other similar things to truly engineer the end result rather than just cut some holes in a piece of round stock and hope for the best. Especially for .223/5.56. I would honestly err a half inch on the cautious side to be totally sure youre compliant. Other than those, all of the brakes felt about the same. Machining is very nice, black oxide finish is okay. Max theoretical reduction would be 82%, but you cant really achieve that due to losses, etc. At this point Im shipping nearly all of them off to Dan Z, who will be using them as TTAG contest (e.g. I must echo these sentiments. The design is now just slightly different and the black finish appears to be glossier. Length:2.36 Everyone will weigh the results of the recoil test differently against design looks, quality, finish, size, weight, concussion, flash, price, etc etc, I know all this. With all of that said, our recoil reduction winner isdrum roll please. $139.95. Wouldve liked to see a Lantac thrown in but beggars cant be choosers. Thanks for putting all this together. Finish:parkerized By far one of the best brakes Ive used. 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