I always wanted an 870 of my own, and got the chance when my son dragged home a rusty beater magnum with bent action bars, a hacked-off barrel, and damaged stock. 50 yards. You get 1,000 lumens of bright white light for target identification with massive ambi controls and full control over the light and weapon. And stay in touch with newsletters of our best articles on techniques, guns, & gear. The 590A1 is still used in the Marines to this day. Click below for a FREE LESSON! But, the Ithaca is irreplaceable now so it stays in the house in bad weather. Its not the prettiest, but by far the classiest it just dont get any more classic or Murican than an 870. Go figure. Price: $350. My last shot on (we only did 4 rounds of trap) I found my express not ejecting no matter how hard I yanked on the forearm, I pulled the barrel and removed the shell con knife blade, I reinstalled the barrel and I was able to move the action but it got stuck a little over halfway, thats when I noticed the extractor was gone. introduced what many believe is the finest pump shotgun ever In a few weeks well transfer them to the bottom of a lake for a while, drop them from an airplane, and then blow them up. The two biggest problems they have been having are the guns rusting if you look at them wrong and the ejectors breaking (which requires a trip back to Remington to fix). This gun has been run over by him and dented the barrel of the gun on the 2-3/4 barrel. introduced cantilever scope mounted barrel on the Model 870 Frankly, I am disappointed in the quality. Mea culpa a slip of the fingers. The Synthetic I do not like the 500 tang safety, and especially not the 870s rear triggerguard safety it means waggling your forefinger back to operate the safety, then forward to fire. And at 16 y.o., offhand, on the run (the deer, not me) I shot my first deer, in the neck. It was my first gun and shall sit in my kids kids safe one day. I think I might have meant to say the ejector. I just swapped a Vang Comp oversized safety on my new 870 Tactical and a Hogue Tamer grip. Good to see cerberus didnt screw up the 870 yet. Unfortunately Freedom Group has also been bad for the 870 Wingmaster, and some are coming now to shops with poor quality stocks and other noticeable defects. True that BOTH are boringly reliable, but BOTH Remington and Mossberg have kicked out a few bad batches recently( havent heard anything catastrophic or totally unrepairable though). I bought an 870 and love it, About 3 decades ago, I spent 6 years in the Coast Guard reserves, serving as a small-boat engineer and boarding officer. featured specially decorated receivers and a selected block of serial Also the military Mossberg has a steel reciever where the Mossberg Comercialy available shotguns are aluminum so durability wise they dont compare to the civilian available version. I put a leftover sling on it and now have it as one of my HD guns. Ive actually been considering pricing up another 870 for an HD role. be sold over the next two years. I am really more interested in the skidsteer rock bucket. A couple a buds have the 1100 auto version & prefer it (lighter kick). Mossberg 590 Shockwave 20 Gauge Pump-Action with 14 inch Barrel. Glad I got one while I could. Polish the chamber with steel wool on a wood dowel mounted in a power drill. 870 28 gauge and .410 shotguns were offered individually, in place remington is garbage. or Best Offer. There are hundreds of different configurations of this gun, and in 2009 Remington stated over 11 million 870s had been produced. Fantastic shotguns, all of them. it would scare me When I first joined the standard shotgun was the Remington 870 with short cylinder-bore barrel and plain wood furniture. Apparently something was slightly off in the manufacturing process and the Remington rep was familiar with this problem. When I took off the old one (and mind you, it had only been on there for not much longer than a month), it had rubbed its way down to the bare metal seemingly effortlessly. My admittedly sketchy and incomplete information suggests that the Remington name was purchased out of bankruptcy by Vista Outdoor, who then split the name into two separate subsidiaries, Remington Ammunition and Remington Arms. $464.00 $449.99. At one point he had some shells that had gotten wet duck hunting and the bullet when off delayed and blew up the lower part of the action but was able to be fix easily. That strange slotted lifter design on the 500 that you dont like stays out of the way unless the bolt is open, meaning you can reload it with it mounted to your shoulder and keep all your fingernails. (for $443), and Model 870 SPS-Deer (fully Of course, that was AFTER I shot right over its back, on my FIRST shot, when it was WALKING, and stepped into a hole.LOL.). Luckily my instructor was a friend of mine and let me finish the school with his department issue 870. I DID INSTALL A PISTOL GRIP STOCK AND A NEW FOREND WITH A VERTICAL GRIP AND MORE IMPORTANTLY I BOUGHT AND INSTALLED THE POLICE BARREL VERSION AT 18 FOR THE SLUGS I USE WHICH IS ABOUT 90% OF WHAT I RUN THROUGH THE GUN. As we continued the course the screw that held the rear sight in place worked itself loose and the ghost ring fell off. The Remington 870 is much like a AR 15 in terms of customization. 3-inch and 3-inch shells. style. The 870 cycles, fires, ejects without complaint and will do so for decades of trouble-free use. Watched the shot strike the ground, missing the rabbit. 26-inch RemChoke barrel and an extra 20-inch fully rifled deer +1 on that. years earlier, Remington design engineers had begun working on a Remington Lemons come from anywhere. Used guns at gunshows can have problems so beware there. I shoot only 00 buck low brass. Remington Also cantilever and receiver-mounts for scopes [3] The Remington Model 870 is a pump-action shotgun manufactured by Remington Arms Company, LLC. chambered for 3-inch 12 gauge shotshells, were introduced. Produced every year since, the Model 870 has parts and synthetic stock and forend. matte finish on metal parts and black synthetic stock and forend. Mossberg 940 Turkey Pro. Youth Turkey Camo gun. Your average gun owner is not going to put 250 through the pipe as a function test, nor are they going to sit in their room and rack it a thousand times to get a nice smoothed action =] Most people put perhaps 10 shells or less and throw it in the closet or under a bed. Theres also been the occasional pinch between the fore end and the frame of the action. Grade (for $89.95), Model 870SA Skeet Grade Something I would already be familiar with. Needless to say I bought a new Remington 870 in 3-1/2 as soon as they came out, and wouldnt trade it for a second. If you make a pump-action shotgun that cant cycle, Im unsure what to tell you. Being of relatively new manufacture, the components are of higher quality materials than even existed when the gun was first introduced. That BPS that some guy raves on is fine but I just dont like guns made by SumYungHo of Japan. Runs great, solid steel parts, reliable & CHEAP. Nice engraving on older ones (new ones are plain) as an extra cost option on new ones. The company also offered a YMMV. Actually I decided to do an update pic. The shell literally had to be cut in half to get it out of the gun. enable_page_level_ads: true Remington Win SupX foster slugs kill even big White-Tails quickly & a bit past 100yds (I dont need a Griz gun). Remington introduced a 20 gauge magnum Model 870 ADL and Model My wingmaster from the mid 70s is much stiffer than my freedom group express. introduced the new RemChoke system (with Theres a reason why as of 2016, the top five best selling shotguns goes has follows in this order: You seem to have gotten one that was put together correctly but many others havent. Sorry to tell you this but the Nova isnt a true Bennelli, its Bennelli branded but made in Turkey( run down to your local gun shop and seeththe cheaper off brand shot guns imported from Turkey -they are aldo designed just like the Nova, with that weird looking oversized front sight!). Its also great to read such a positive review about a gun from a company that has had more than its share of bad press regarding quality control. google_ad_client: "ca-pub-5708522835464660", Both have been equally reliable. While it wont knock off the 590, my express tactical is more solidly built than the 500 and maverick 88( 500 and Maverick 88 both experienced cracking trigger housings, and I jad to replace them via a quick mail order to Brownells), The basic 870 can be easily upgraded over time to save you some change. Other than that, I dont have much to complain about. 870 took it home and pulled it all apart all the way down including the trigger assembly, I heard a clinking and I found the extractor on my bench. I bought a used 870 Wing Master back in the 90s in 20 ga.. My gun dealer said it was made in 1967. It rusts too easy and a pain in the ass to oil compared to polished and blued metal. 23-inch barrels and black synthetic stock and forend $259) Ive fired one of the higher end Mossy 500s and I really liked it. Pretty crappy QC if you ask me. introduced the lower cost Model 870 Express, which Before I bought mine, I turned to a friend who is a shotgunner. Please do some research and real tests and then write to the masses I guess you missed the test where the mossberg was adopted by the marine corps etc and remington literally refused to compete against mossberg in the military trials screw remington i had one and a friend had one and they dont like to eject properly literally never ever an issue in many many years and many many mossbergs it feels better isnt even an article who let you write????? It was handed down from my fatber, who had the gun for who knows how long, before giving it to me. Ive also discovered that the metal trigger guard and housing on high end 870s can,also be dented and even cracked if dropped. It was a duck gun, 28 barrel and wood furniture. This is not to be poised as a defensive statement in the form of a question but rather just as the language is posed or ergo as purely an inquisitive nature. Remington My knock is that people gripe about the current non metal trigger guard/ housing. They each have their good and bad points, but both are quite good. Discontinued. Those purchased were modified: cutting the barrels to 18-1/4 inches in length, add a Be Square side attached mount with a Aimpoint red dot scope, touch up the blue with cold blueing and they were ready to go. So they have less recoil than the newer lightweight (LW) 20 gauge 870 frame. (for $79.95), Model 870SB Skeet Special Grade (for We shall see. Also, Remington Though this is an old article, and I dont know if it sets off alerts to anyone previously involved in the comments at the time it was new, Im hoping I may luck out with an answer. Lol, I love how so many gun nutcases are so insanely defensive to their brand. The problem has decreased (cant say its gone away) after running 100+ shells of various brands through the gun. The technical storage or access is strictly necessary for the legitimate purpose of enabling the use of a specific service explicitly requested by the subscriber or user, or for the sole purpose of carrying out the transmission of a communication over an electronic communications network. A good sling can take you far, and the Vickers Combat Applications Sling is one of the best. Out front, Remington seems to have skimped a little. The latest incarnation of the 870 uses the same style stock as the newer Remington 700 rifles. this cheivement was made possible by a rock-solid design and innovative Remington management which introduced dozens of variations over a 55-year history to satisfy millions of shotgunners. Bead, twin bead, adjustable open sights, or ghost ring (all iron sights ). and to the author the gun is the king because it racks so much better and smoother then the mossberg???? ruger. Gotta catch em all! The Vang Comp is a *must* haveits much more positive engagement gives better feedback; I only wish theyd include a red o-ring or paint the left side so its clear when the safety is off (like the Remington safety). It was run over length wise in the mud and gravel of a 2001 silverado ext cab. Let us know in the comments below. I found an 18.5 regular barrel, put the stock police furniture on it and added an ATI +3 magazine extension. the new green pistol doesnt shoot but you can put crimson trace up front. Ironically I can get a bunch of stuff you guys would kill for, while I cant get any American suppressors. The 37 is solid, but I have a serious complaint about the bottom eject. I have other brand guns that I think are equal to remingtons in quality, and one or two that I think are much better quality than remingtons. Type your email address and well send Yes the safety placement sucks, but as I hardly use the safety I have had no real issue with it. You can now eject the chambered round without feeding the next one. history, and the best selling pump-action shotgun in firearms they even still make sweet 16s. added 28-gauge and .410 bore versions to the Model 870 Wingmaster Both use them, and its a cost and weight saving measure, but Ive mine actually crack and break on my on 500 and lesser cousin Maverick 88( and dont say the 88 is not a mossberg-they directly advertise the 88 as a mossberg on their public site); this hasnt happened on my current budget 870 and Ive noticed the polymer trigger guard and housing flexes a little compared to the hard molded mossberg equivalent. Anniversary Edition Shotgun. walnut stocks replaced mahogany stocks on all 20 gauge, 28 gauge and numbers followed by DU suffix. What he said. Express in .410 bore (for $289). versions of the Model 870 Express Super Magnum shotguns, Friend bought a new 870 and got it hot out of the box no lube- jam-o-matic. The other Mossy 500s Ive handled always felt a little rickety, had cheap feeling polymer and rattled a little too much for my liking. patented device allowed the shooter to use a wrench to change the A new-in-box 28-gauge Remington 1100. $464.00 $449.99. Remington also introduced the Model Reliability and functioning under the most adverse conditions are the necessarys of a tool of war. Its an easy choice, go for the 590A1. introduced the Model 870 Magnum-AP Standard Grade shotgun Unfortunately, you cant change barrels with that model. Model 870 shotgun! It's a twin action-bar monster with a milled-steel receiver heart. 870 TB Trap Grade and Model 870 TBMCS Trap shotguns. They should do better QC test before sending items out of their factory. Do you happen to know the average amount of time it takes to break the extractor on an 870. My choice was a Maverick 88, due to the layout of the controls (since replicated on the Winchester models). And there the only brand that I know of that builds gun parts out of plastic. Benelli every time. 870 shotgun! the Model 870 Express Super Magnum Turkey Gun ( After putting around 200 rounds through the gun I began to experience light primer strikes. 870, 45, ak, ruger. That honor must belong to the side-by-side break-action. Having used 870 in my LE career, I wouldnt stand by any other duty shotgun unless it were the higher end Bennelli super 90, but for day to day use and abuse public safety employees subject them to, remingtons last, Gotta love the grand gun debates. I have an early 70s model 870 Wingmaster that is the cats meow but for ducks, geese, clay pigeons and anything else I now turn to my Benelli Nova. If anybody has experience with the Norinco 97 copy, please post and advise us. So I have fond memories of the 870, which my 93 y.o. re-introduced the Model 870 Express Small Gauge gun in I have a Remington 870 AOW. $145.00 New. 870 Express Combos with 26-inch So buy a used Browing BPS, or a used 870 Wingmaster that was made by a craftsman years ago. Do whatever you want to it! Just had an issue with my 870, I received it 9 months ago and I have put about 6500 ( I reload or it would have been a lot less) or so rounds down through it with out any problems, Its the 2015 model with the wood finish and I love it. Product Family #: 1601735304. Recall the mess old Remington created when they acquired the Marlin brand in 2007, laid off all the Marlin employees, and moved the manufacturing of Marlin lever guns to Remington plants. Yes, it does feel that way and it will still feel that way after flawlessly firing thousands of rounds. bought a new Mossberg 500 in 1980 for a long time it was the only shotgun I owned. Reach in the tube and push forward on the next round. synthetic stock and forend. I'd say the jury is still out and we'll have to wait 5-10 years to see how RemArms performs. If I had the extra money (retired now), I would still purchase the 870 Wing Master. Also new for 2001 was the Model 870 SPS Super Anniversary Model 870 Classic Trap Gun as Maverick 88 all the way. Are they former employees from Ilion or new hires? Ergonomics: * ** * The Remington Model 870 Express Super Mag Turkey/Waterfowl Pump-Action Shotgun also functions with 2-3/4" and 3" shotgun shells, as well as the 3-1/2" shells, making it an extremely versatile firearm. The Remington 870 Express is manufactured to exacting specifications to meet the highest standard for accuracy, reliability and durability. Thanks. Makes that consideration a whole lot harder. I got my first deer using an 870 with 00 buckshot in the mixed brush, juniper breaks of Central TX. guns & Old comment, but i see this comment often. Their QC and business decisions dont sit well with me recently. I have a Remington 870 myself. Remington 870 Tac-14 20 Gauge Pump Action with 14-Inch Barrel. I think somehow it got lodged up in the action, dont know how, I re-installed it and ran some snap caps through the pipe and it seems to be working fine. A Win 1300 12ga is a bit better to duck/goose hunt with. .410 bore shotgun to the Model 870 Express line. Beyond these three designs, we also have the Special Purpose Marine model, the TAC-14 firearms, the SuperMag, the Police Magnum models, and likely a dozen other models between limited configurations, military models, and distributor exclusives. Your correct the Remmingtom sucks and now I have to ask for repairs. become the most successful single model gun in Remingtons 189-year shotgun to full, modified or improved cylinder chokes. Model 870 SP-T Super Magnum Thumbhole stock shotgun and a And then well see if they still work. HiViz fiber-optic sight. I have the ONG military model, a retired Police Wingmaster, and two TAC-14s. RemChoke barrel. . Camo CL/RC Shotgun with cantilever scope mount and a 23-inch I dont design them. Other things come down to personal preference, like my partiality for the Remingtons cross bar safety as opposed to the Mossberg tang-mounted safety. Not reallyI just screwed up the math. And in the third installment, can you review and rate the availability and affordability of after-market parts and accessories for the 870 and 500? Besides Sponsored. Then, when you put the gun up against some competition, and you start to realize just how good you have it. This will be the HD setup; Ill swap the Magpul stock back on for range use. Ergonomically the gun is fine. full choke. $615.00) and the Model 870R Riot Grade with 20 I personally dont think anyone would be upset. Police model can be had parkerized or blued. I like exotic things and those exotic things you can get in Europe. lol +1. 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